MZ loves Cheat

Important - MZ loves cheating ?
por solansko 10/6/2004 09:03
I'm MA yet, I think it will be my last message, and this message is
very important for all, Crew, Mas, GAs, read this thread. Stop to
think money ! French community has a real problem with a crew a
cheaters. Friends of Portos92140. They have put many players in
transfers with their old hockey accounts from Soccer. They have
active some of them just to put their players and offer like 700 000
euro for young French players.

We have stop these transfers. We can't stop this transfer :

Club Rouvignies
Deadline10/8/2004 2:47pm
Start : 120 000 EUR
Last bid 790 000 EUR beber la star!!!!

Rouvignies is the club of kipik the French national manager. They
have did it to create problems.
For me it's an other prove of trial system is useless against cheat…
For cheaters, it's not very expensive to pay just 1 SMS… I've seen
multi-accounts in French community last week… 8 teams… all actives,
by just one guy…

Many managers begin to don't believe in Crew and ManagerZone about
the fight against cheating. Me too… We ban, they come back, some of
them come back just for a revenge, or to try to fuck us !
When we ban them, they come back more tricky.

Cheaters give to MZ many money, but tell us sincerely, crew, you
prefer win money from cheaters and don't give a fuck about other
managers, or start a real war against cheating ?

Sorry for my bad english
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Re: Important - MZ loves cheating ?
por lofy 10/6/2004 09:58
Well... I´ve been writing about this for a long, long time...

I don´t know until where goes CREW REAL interest in ban cheating
from game.

We have seen a lot of "strange" things here, as non-swedes GA´s
showing suspect transfers between swedes and for them is... "Humm..
there´s no proof of cheating".




Re: Important - MZ loves cheating ?
por solansko 10/6/2004 10:20
Me it's not about swedish managers. It's about our communities.



Re: Important - MZ loves cheating ?
por zebentao 10/6/2004 10:38
Ok... But do you realize that all online games have cheaters?

There are allways ppl that have fun trying to cheat and destroying
online games...

What can we do to prevent that those teams get in the game?
IP's? Can't be done because the most part of IP's are public, and
even if it isnt public do you think its fair that because of one
cheater all the persons that play on the same office can't access
managerzone because of one them?

So IP's bans isnt viable...

Some time ago i played another game where they had access to
an "IDmachine", i think it was some kind of identification of the
operative system they used. But still there were ppl that simply
formated their PC's to get into the agme again...

The fighting against cheating its a patience game...

About the case you have brought here, it has a simple resolution...

Rule number 5:
§5 No friendly bids on players.
To make sure that §2 has the maximum effect, no friends are allowed
to make excessive bids on players in order to move money from one
team to a friend's team. An excessive bid is when the bid is clearly
higher than the the current market value of the player at the time
of the transfer. If notice someone trying to buy your player for an
excessive price you have the opportunity to contact the support to
avoid suspension. Bids that are considered as excessive bids are
forbidden and if you do this with intention to make money you will
be suspended right away, and this applies to both the team that is
making the bid and the team the player is sold from. If the bid is
five times the theoretical value of a player or higher the transfer
will be checked automatically, which don't neccessarily have to lead
to any measures if it is a star player whose market value is higher
than other players.

The player that is on the transfers is unique? If not the transfer
can be comparable and stopped if the values are too high (2 times
higher from the market value is more than enough to me).

But "Isidor transfer was somekind like this tranfer"!
Wrong! In the Isidor transfer the player that was transfered was
unique and one of the bests players in the market so we can't
compare with no other player.

I would cancel the transfer, suspend the buyer and give the transfer
fee back to the seller to be sure he doenst lose his money.



Re: Important - MZ loves cheating ?
por solansko 10/6/2004 11:20
I think it's possible to make a control at teams who start on MZ.
Look a teams who suscribe to MZ, and accept their suscribe. I know,
with this idea we mlust have many more assistants, but I think MZ
must to have a better control of new teams to don't have all the
time multi-accounts...

In some online games you have this system.


Re: Important - MZ loves cheating ?
por lbrosius 10/6/2004 11:29
Maybe Solansko is right on this ...

Maybe some of us will say it's annoying but ... can't the crew build
a program that notify national GAs the list of just activated teams
in the country? Doing so, all GAs would be able to know exactly
which team has been created and then have a look to it and determine
if it is part of a multi-team cheat.

That could be an helpfull "toy"


Odp: Important - MZ loves cheating ?
por mundek (GA) 10/6/2004 12:22
many weeks ago i was talking about this idea that GA could activate
teams and allow to play in MZ (this is like in hattrick, maybe thats
why crew dont want use this idea), besides this wont cure us from
cheaters like it didnt cure hattrick, they will be everywhere.
istead of this idea crew made trial system, it works good in poland,
amount of cheat transfers dropped drasticly, of corz many ppl owns
few teams, but they dont make trasnfers or if they they do it very
smart.

for now please let crew focus on cup system and fight against
inflation, if they focus on this, we wont have cup system and we
wont control new teams assigment ;]